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Episode 44September 30, 2026·2h 3m

Karl Learmont and Ashley Bad

Angelspit, and the vocalist and producer on its new single "Franchised"

Angelspit has toured with KMFDM, Ayria, The Crüxshadows, and Blood on the Dance Floor, run 22 US dates with Lords of Acid in 2011, played Wave-Gotik-Treffen, M'era Luna and Summer Darkness, and shared stages with Skinny Puppy, Front Line Assembly, Nitzer Ebb, Front 242, and The Sisters of Mercy. He runs his own label, Black Pill Red Pill, remixes constantly (KMFDM, SNOG, I:Scintilla, Primitive Race), and shares his knowledge on Patreon, teaching others about production and the music business.

Ashley Bad is a multi-talented artist who writes, sings, and produces her own music as well as remixes. She came up in the New York fetish and goth underground as a latex performer, toured internationally doing latex burlesque, played in cult glam-punk act The Voluptuous Horror of Karen Black, and moved from NYC to LA for the Lords of Acid tour right before everything shut down in 2020.

Her debut single "Deadly" arrived in November 2021 with Mark Gemini Thwaite (Peter Murphy, Gary Numan) on guitar and production and a B-side from Travis Bacon. "The Gun" followed in early 2022, then the Erotica EP on Cleopatra. Her production work runs in both directions with Angelspit: she remixed "Come Into The Creep" in 2021, Karl remixed "The Gun" the year after, and now she's the voice on "Franchised."

When she's not making her own records she's behind the decks as a DJ in the LA goth scene.

Whether you have been a fan of Angelspit, Ashely Bad, or you're meeting both of them here for the first time, this is a conversation between two artists who built their own corners of this scene from the inside.

What they get into

  • Starting and developing different projects as an artist
  • Running your own label
  • Going from performing in somebody else's show to writing and
  • Singing on "Franchised" and how that collaboration came together
  • Remixing each other, and what you learn about a song by pulling it apart