The podcast
The Unwritten Rules of the Road
Tash Cox in long conversation with artists, tour managers, promoters and festival founders. The music business and the craft, life on the road and off it, where the work comes from and why anyone keeps doing it. Live every Sunday, and all of it here afterwards.
43 episodes, 75 hours, and counting.
Christian Petke
Founder of COP International
COP started in 1991 with offices in both Frankfurt and the Bay Area. The first full-length was the California Cyber Crash Compilation, featuring Diatribe, Battery, Consolidated, Switchblade Symphony, and Christian's own band Deathline International. A lot of...
Recent episodes
4h 49mEp 42 · August 25, 2026
Nuda, SINE and Curse Mackey
Nuda is the solo darkwave and industrial project of Seattle's Kaylie Cortez, who came up as the guitarist in Possessed Tranquility and the live...
1h 42mEp 41 · August 24, 2026
Jet / Founder of Dark Force Fest and VampireFreaks
Jet grew up in Brooklyn, found industrial and goth in the early 90s through Nine Inch Nails and Marilyn Manson, and got into promoting and throwing...
1h 31mEp 40 · August 10, 2026
Ali Mojallal
Ali has been DJing as DJ Savak since long before the festival existed, and Mechanismus started as a night dedicated to one thing: promoting...
1h 38mEp 39 · August 3, 2026
NITE
Kyle and Myles were born in Winnipeg and grew up on their dad's Cure DVDs, which is the origin story they still point to when anyone asks how two...
1h 42mEp 38 · July 20, 2026
Bellhead
Bellhead came together in 2019 the way real bands come together, not by design but by accident.
1h 32mEp 37 · July 13, 2026
Naika Malveaux / DJ Whisperwish
Naika grew up as a military kid living overseas in Germany, came up through the Art Institute of Houston, and by 2004 was DJing his own residencies...
1h 51mEp 36 · June 8, 2026
John Calacci
John currently tour-manages The Bangles, a role he's held for nearly two decades, and his client list reads like a who's-who of American songwriting:...
2h 11mEp 35 · May 18, 2026
Rogue of Crüxshadows
Rogue formed The Crüxshadows in Tallahassee, Florida in 1992 with Sean Flanagan and Tim Curry.
The full archive
34 more conversations, oldest at the bottom.
2026
10 episodes
2h 27mEp 34Julian Shah-Tayler, aka The Singularity
1h 37mEp 33Charles Rehill / Lost Signal
1h 41mEp 32Curse MackeyPart II
1h 38mEp 31Ian Ross
1h 28mEp 30Ty Oliver
1h 40mEp 29Nina Heckman / Metropolis Records
1h 48mEp 28Daniel Graves
2h 2mEp 27Mark Gemini Thwaite
1h 42mEp 26SINERona Rougeheart
49mEp 25John GiovanazziRev. John
2025
22 episodes
1h 39mEp 24Statik
1h 36mEp 23Eli Lev
1h 38mEp 22Ryan Hutman
1h 35mEp 21Curse Mackey
1h 49mEp 20Jason Corbett of ACTORS
1h 32mEp 19JC Lobo of Ritualz
1h 40mEp 18Krystal Garcia of Distorted Heartbeat
1h 46mEp 17The Russian White
1h 21mEp 16Rodney Orpheus of The Cassanda Complex
2h 7mEp 15Donna Lynch & Steven Archer / Ego Likeness
1h 45mEp 14DJ Spider!
1h 38mEp 13Ken Magerman & Collin Schipper of Amaranth
1h 8mEp 12Mark Paradise of Communion After Dark
1h 57mEp 11Adam Smith!
1h 36mEp 10Jennifer Parkin and Eric Gottesman!
1h 58mEp 9Elizabeth Inglese of YES Music Productions
1h 49mEp 8Jim Semonik
1h 53mEp 7Kai Kurosawa
1h 50mEp 6Lindsay Schoolcraft
1h 43mEp 5Steven Seibold
1h 11mEp 4Clint Carney
1h 10mEp 3Jan Michael Alejandro
About the host
Tash is one of Tourouter's co-founders.
Founded in 2011, AL1CE has been the main artistic vehicle of singer and front person Tash Cox. For the past 10+ years, they have toured relentlessly and Tash has been the person behind the scenes booking shows, coordinating schedules, and cracking skulls to make it all happen.
Tourouter grew out of that, over the same ten years. Scott built the first version around the problems she kept running into, and the two of them have built it out since, with the rest of AL1CE and a lot of other touring artists and friends telling us what was missing. We hope that Tourouter can help other bands and artists as much as it has helped us in our own journey as independent, touring musicians.